Legislature(2003 - 2004)

12/13/2004 10:06 AM Senate HES

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
 HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                       December 13, 2004                                                                                        
                           10:06 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TAPE(S) 04-32,33                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Fred Dyson, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Gretchen Guess                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Dan Ogg                                                                                                          
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch                                                                                                  
Representative Jack Coghill                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Con Bunde                                                                                                               
Senator Ralph Seekins                                                                                                           
Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                       
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
Representative-elect Mark Neuman                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Presentation by Office of Children's Services                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Presentation of Project Citizen at Goldenview Middle School                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Joel Gilbertson, Commissioner                                                                                                   
Department of Health & Social Services                                                                                          
PO Box 110601                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK 99811-0601                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Marcia Kennai, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Office of Children's Services                                                                                                   
PO Box 110630                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK 99811-0630                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Joanne Gibbens, Program Administrator                                                                                           
Office of Children's Services                                                                                                   
PO Box 110630                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK 99811-0630                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mike Lesmann, Program Coordinator                                                                                               
Office of Children's Services                                                                                                   
PO Box 110630                                                                                                                   
Juneau, AK 99811-0630                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Dianne Olsen, Department of Law                                                                                                 
1031 W 4th Ave #200                                                                                                             
Anchorage, AK 99501                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
James Steele, Children Services Manager                                                                                         
Office of Children's Services                                                                                                   
268 E Fireweed Suite 5                                                                                                          
Palmer, AK 99645-6665                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Pamela Collins, Social Studies Teacher                                                                                          
Goldenview Middle School                                                                                                        
15800 Goldenview Drive                                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK 99516                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Katelyn Duncan, Student-Goldenview Middle School                                                                                
15800 Goldenview Drive                                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK 99516                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Brenna Egeland, Student                                                                                                         
Goldenview Middle School                                                                                                        
15800 Goldenview Drive                                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK 99516                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Rori Ann Redick, Student                                                                                                        
Goldenview Middle School                                                                                                        
15800 Goldenview Drive                                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK 99516                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
River Ramuglia, Student                                                                                                         
Goldenview Middle School                                                                                                        
15800 Goldenview Drive                                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK 99516                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Shannon Bradley, Student                                                                                                        
Goldenview Middle School                                                                                                        
15800 Goldenview Drive                                                                                                          
Anchorage, AK 99516                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-32, SIDE A                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRED  DYSON called  the  joint  Senate and  House  Health,                                                               
Education, and  Social Services standing  committees to  order at                                                               
10:06 a.m. on  Monday, December 13, 2004. At present  at the call                                                               
to  order  were  Senators  Dyson and  Guess  and  Representatives                                                               
Wilson, Gatto,  Dahlstrom and Joule.  Senators Bunde  and Seekins                                                               
and  Representatives  Croft,  Seaton, Gara,  Neuman,  and  Cissna                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  announced  that Department  of  Health  and Social  Services'                                                               
staff would present  an analysis of the  child protection system.                                                               
This presentation  will not focus  on individual cases,  but will                                                               
cover the agency  as a whole. Then, legislators would  be able to                                                               
ask questions  of the  department; public  testimony will  not be                                                               
taken. Third,  an executive session  will occur  with legislators                                                               
and agency personnel to discuss  confidential details of specific                                                               
cases. The  confidentiality of an executive  session is necessary                                                               
because  of  pending legal  action  and  current state  law.  The                                                               
department is also  planning to brief the  committees on upcoming                                                               
changes to confidentiality restrictions.  After that, students at                                                               
Goldenview Middle  School will present  a panel on  the treatment                                                               
of Alzheimers disease.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON stated  that  this meeting  was not  meant  to be  a                                                               
witch-hunt. Instead,  it was the  beginning of a long  process of                                                               
collaboration with  the Office of  Children's Services  to decide                                                               
how to better protect Alaska's children.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOEL  GILBERTSON, Commissioner  of the  Department of  Health and                                                               
Social Services introduced Marcia  Kennai, Deputy Commissioner of                                                               
the Department,  who oversees the Office  of Children's Services.                                                               
Commissioner  Gilbertson thanked  the Chairs  for convening  this                                                               
meeting   and  looks   forward   to  continued   work  with   the                                                               
Legislature.  At  a  recent   press  conference,  the  department                                                               
explained its  legislative goals  for the upcoming  session. Some                                                               
of the  issues discussed were  funding for staffing,  training, a                                                               
new  information  technology  system,   and  a  revision  of  the                                                               
confidentiality guidelines under which the agency must operate.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  KENNAI explained  that over the  past years,                                                               
the department  combined several programs and  created the Office                                                               
of  Children's Services.  Programs include  child protection  and                                                               
permanency, infant learning, nutrition,  and the Healthy Families                                                               
Alaska program.  During 2004, 27,000  clients were served  in the                                                               
family  nutrition program,  1721 clients  in the  infant learning                                                               
program, and  373 families in  the Healthy Families  program. The                                                               
agency  also completed  11,202 investigations  of child  abuse or                                                               
neglect. On average in 2002,  approximately 2000 Alaskan children                                                               
were in the custody of the Office of Children's Services.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER KENNAI  continued to  explain that  in 2004,                                                               
the  Office  of  Children's  Services began  to  implement  their                                                               
Program  Improvement  Plan  (PIP),  as required  by  the  federal                                                               
government. The PIP was created  after an extensive review of the                                                               
agency  completed in  2002. After  one  year under  the PIP,  the                                                               
agency  has completed  53% of  its action  steps and  64% of  its                                                               
benchmarks.  The   safety  goals   have  been   achieved.  Repeat                                                               
maltreatment is now at 17.3%, which  betters the goal of 22%. For                                                               
children  currently  in  the  custody of  the  state,  1.2%  have                                                               
experienced  abuse  and/or neglect  in  foster  care or  relative                                                               
care, which  is also better than  the goal of 1.7%.  The national                                                               
standard is 0.05%.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON   reminded  the  committees   about  the                                                               
history of  the PIP.  The federal audit  focused on  three areas:                                                               
safety,   permanency,  and   well-being.  The   PIP  included   a                                                               
benchmarked action plan  for improving these areas. The  PIP is a                                                               
negotiated  agreement   between  the  state  and   federal  child                                                               
protection agencies. After  it is begun, the state  has two years                                                               
to meet  the agreed-upon goals.  Then, the federal  auditors will                                                               
return to study, if in fact  the state has met the goals. Another                                                               
PIP will  then probably  be made.  Each state  has areas  it must                                                               
improve,  as  pointed out  in  their  respective federal  audits,                                                               
within their child protective systems.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON pointed  out  that  the audit  uncovered                                                               
some  startling  information  regarding safety  issues,  such  as                                                               
repeat  maltreatment and  incidences of  child abuse  and neglect                                                               
while in foster care.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  pointed out that the  area of permanency was  one in                                                               
which the  state has historically performed  poorly. The previous                                                               
administration  initiated a  large effort  to improve  this area,                                                               
which the Legislature funded.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY   COMMISSIONER  KENNAI   responded   that  adoptions   are                                                               
increasing, but  the federal government's  standard is  24 months                                                               
for  a  child  to  enter  a  permanent  placement.  Reunification                                                               
(within   12   months)   is  another   area   needing   continued                                                               
improvement.  An area  that the  state is  performing well  in is                                                               
placement stability.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON indicated  concern about  the time  children are  in                                                               
state custody,  rather than in  permanent placements.  He pointed                                                               
out that the process to  terminate parental rights is cumbersome,                                                               
time-consuming, and  an area for  the agency to continue  to work                                                               
on.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked for  clarification about  children in                                                               
foster care.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER  KENNAI responded  that  nearly  80% of  our                                                               
adoptions  occur  through  the  foster care  system.  Until  that                                                               
adoption is  finalized, each of  these children remains  in legal                                                               
limbo.  Foster  parents  can   choose  between  guardianship  and                                                               
adoption, and  guardianship is  considered a  permanent placement                                                               
by the federal government.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JOANNE GIBBENS, OCS, confirmed this for the committees.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  pointed out  that  uncertain  medical treatment  is                                                               
another  factor  that  foster   parents  wrestle  with  in  their                                                               
considerations to adopt a child.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISIONER KENNAI added that  all children in foster have                                                               
"special needs"  to some  degree, because it  is traumatic  for a                                                               
child to be removed from their biological family.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  KENNAI reported that the  agency has devoted                                                               
four  of  its new  positions  (one  for  each region)  to  assist                                                               
children who  will soon  "age out" of  the state  system, helping                                                               
them to  learn the skills  needed for a successful  transition to                                                               
independent living.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE   asked  for  clarification  on   the  four                                                               
regions, and the geographic areas they cover.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER KENNAI  responded that each child  has his or                                                               
her own  caseworker, and the independent  living specialists work                                                               
with the caseworkers to develop independent living plans.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE pointed  out  that the  Northern region  is                                                               
spread out over a tremendous  distance, and that he was concerned                                                               
that  these  specialists  provided  sufficient  coverage  to  the                                                               
children in need.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON pointed out  that geographic issues are a                                                               
large  challenge to  overcome as  caseworkers attempt  to contact                                                               
each child once per month.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  pointed out  that success has  been achieved  in the                                                               
past  when the  agency  "subcontracts" some  services with  local                                                               
resources,  and  he  inquired  if  the  agency  has  any  similar                                                               
agreements in the Bush.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER   KENNAI  affirmed  that  the   agency  does                                                               
practice such  agreements, but  clarified that  these alternative                                                               
response systems help with services  like family assessments when                                                               
the agency receives a low-level report of harm.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  added that  the federal  government does                                                               
not recognize these alternative systems  of support as valid, and                                                               
he agreed with Chair Dyson that  this area needs to be worked on,                                                               
especially in a state like Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  indicated that the  tribes may be  a useful                                                               
resource in this regard.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER KENNAI  explained  that she  is planning  to                                                               
contact  the regional  federal  office in  an  effort to  receive                                                               
permission  to utilize  these local  resources. In  the meantime,                                                               
the state  will continue  to utilize  these services,  though the                                                               
federal government  does not acknowledge  them as  valid portions                                                               
of a service plan.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER KENNAI explained  some recent reform efforts.                                                               
The   newly-funded  staff   positions  have   helped  to   reduce                                                               
caseloads,  and the  average  caseload is  24  cases per  worker,                                                               
which is closer to the national standards.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  clarified that there  were in fact 26  new positions                                                               
and that there were administrative  difficulties in filling these                                                               
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER KENNAI explained  some of the difficulties in                                                               
filling these  positions. She explained that  the federal stipend                                                               
program may help  to attract new social workers to  the state. In                                                               
this  program, the  federal government  reimburses the  state for                                                               
student grants paid  to students who pledge two  years of service                                                               
in Alaska's child protection system.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
An   unidentified   speaker   spoke  to   the   geographic   cost                                                               
differences.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON inquired about the turnover.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER KENNAI  replied  that  the current  turnover                                                               
rate was 13-14%                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MIKE LESMANN, OCS, confirmed this for the committees.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER   KENNAI  attempted  to  explain   how  this                                                               
statistic is calculated.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON pledged  to work in the Legislature  to fix problems,                                                               
if they  exist, with the  compensation package offered  to social                                                               
workers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LESMANN added that the current vacancy rate is 7.53%.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  reported  that most  states,  including                                                               
Alaska, are  developing new  information technology  systems. The                                                               
new system is called ORCA,  which stands for Online Resources for                                                               
the Children of  Alaska, which will replace  a paper-based system                                                               
with a  real-time, web-based,  electronic system.  The Department                                                               
will request funding  from the Legislature for  34 new positions,                                                               
some of which  will be devoted to expertise  with the information                                                               
technology aspects of the new ORCA system.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS requested the length  of service for social workers                                                               
in addition to the turnover rate.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  KENNAI added  that exit interviews  are also                                                               
being implemented.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS asked about transcription services.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER  KENNAI  confirmed  that  the  agency  still                                                               
offers transcription services  for social workers to  use, to cut                                                               
down on administrative burdens to productivity.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA asked  if 18 months is a  valid estimation of                                                               
the average length of service for front-line social workers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER KENNAI  confirmed that  18-24 months  is the                                                               
typical length of  service due to the  extremely difficult nature                                                               
of these jobs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-32, SIDE B                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER KENNAI plans to  issue a Request For Proposal                                                               
in the coming year for a workload study.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE asked  if the 18-24 month figure was  due to social                                                               
workers  being  recent  college   graduates.  He  also  indicated                                                               
interest  in  some type  of  apprenticeship  for social  workers,                                                               
similar to student teaching programs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER KENNAI replied  that social work studies must                                                               
complete work programs in order to receive their degree.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON indicated  his plans to modify  the agency's Missions                                                               
and Measures plan to include measures of job retention.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER KENNAI  continued  to  explain the  agency's                                                               
efforts to train  tribal transition specialists for  kids who are                                                               
about to  leave their  foster homes. ORCA  was brought  online in                                                               
September. The agency  has increased federal funding  from 31% to                                                               
64%. She  reaffirmed that front-line  social workers  are focused                                                               
on  child  welfare, not  money.  Responding  to a  question  from                                                               
Representative Joule,  she explained that the  federal government                                                               
rewards  or punishes  state agencies  by adjusting  their funding                                                               
levels, especially in the areas  of safety and monthly visitation                                                               
of children.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked  about parents' option of  challenging in court                                                               
the agency's  decision to  remove children  from their  home, and                                                               
asked if the  agency still distributes a handbook  to the parents                                                               
explaining their legal options and resources.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DIANNE  OLSEN,  DLAW,  confirmed  that most  parents  have  legal                                                               
representation of some kind.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Responding  to  a  question  from  Representative  Wilson,  JAMES                                                               
STEELE,  OCS,  explained that  the  handbook  has helped  parents                                                               
better  understand the  legal process,  and  these handbooks  are                                                               
distributed  in   each  case.  He  also   confirmed  that  Public                                                               
Defenders help the parents.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GUESS  asked  if these  handbooks  are  developed  using                                                               
languages other than English.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  KENNAI and JAMES STEELE  explained that some                                                               
other languages  are used and  interpreters are also  utilized in                                                               
these cases.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA pointed  out  that the  high  caseload is  a                                                               
factor that leads  to high turnover. He  advised consideration of                                                               
the Child Welfare League's standards regarding caseload.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  KENNAI added  that, in addition  to reducing                                                               
caseloads, we also  need to reduce staffing  vacancies. Also, the                                                               
work  is  very  difficult,  and   high  turnover  may  remain  an                                                               
inevitable issue with such  difficult work. Instead, compensation                                                               
should   include    promotional   opportunities,    varied   task                                                               
requirements, and flexible schedules such as 4-day work weeks.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  reminded the  committees of  the planned                                                               
workload study.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER   KENNAI  continued   to  speak   about  the                                                               
caseload.  Social  workers  are  near the  Child  Welfare  League                                                               
standards  concerning  permanency  cases. For  the  investigation                                                               
cases, caseloads remain high.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON   inquired  about  the  process   for  pre-placement                                                               
investigations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON pointed out  that the agency conducts two                                                               
types of studies: one focusing  on the physical facility, another                                                               
regarding the  persons in  the home.  He informed  the committees                                                               
that  Deputy Commissioner  Kennai would  like the  home study  to                                                               
occur at the beginning of  the home licensing process. Currently,                                                               
the  home study  does not  occur  until the  adoption process  is                                                               
initiated;  foster homes  are not  being  regularly subjected  to                                                               
home studies.  Home studies are in-depth  family assessments that                                                               
examine  the  impact of  additional  children  upon a  household.                                                               
History  has indicated  that  in the  majority  of cases,  foster                                                               
homes lead to  adoption more often than not. As  a result, a home                                                               
study completed  at the  outset of  the foster  parenting process                                                               
will insure that children will receive safe placements.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON indicated  his interest in the  agency moving forward                                                               
with specific selection criteria for placement.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER KENNAI  mentioned 'disproportionality'  as a                                                               
factor that the  agency is concerned about.  Approximately 60% of                                                               
the children in state custody are Alaska Natives.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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DEPUTY COMMISSIONER KENNAI also  mentioned that some requirements                                                               
for placement can be waived in certain circumstances.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER  KENNAI  stated that  agency  decisions  are                                                               
based on many  criteria, and attempts are made  to place siblings                                                               
together. Placements with relatives are also prioritized.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON then closed this portion  of the hearing, so that the                                                               
students from Goldenview Middle  School could make a presentation                                                               
and then return to class.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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PAMELA COLLINS,  8   grade Social  Studies teacher  at Goldenview                                                               
Middle School,  provided opening  remarks. Project Citizen  is an                                                               
international program  that leads  kids to  look for  problems in                                                               
their  neighborhoods,   study  them   and  try  to   improve  the                                                               
situations. Students  formulate an action plan  that they present                                                               
to legislators for possible implementation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE  mentioned that this  student group presented  at a                                                               
recent   convention  of   the   National   Conference  of   State                                                               
Legislatures.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. COLLINS  reported that eight Goldenview  students were chosen                                                               
as  ambassadors  to the  national  convention,  and received  top                                                               
honors for their work.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
KATELYN  DUNCAN reported  that the  students represented  "Choose                                                               
the Choice:  Alzheimer's Home  and Community-Based  Care." Alaska                                                               
is one  of only two  states in the country  that does not  have a                                                               
Medicaid waiver  program for  Alzheimer's treatment.  Our state's                                                               
Choice Waiver program  only applies to skilled  care. Alaska must                                                               
address  these  issues.  These students  seek  development  of  a                                                               
Complete  Coverage  Waiver  for   treatment  of  Alzheimer's  and                                                               
dementia.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRENNA EGELAND pointed  out that nursing homes  can be impersonal                                                               
institutions where  workers do not  know their  patients. Nursing                                                               
homes are  also very expensive. Advantages,  however, include the                                                               
provision of  constant and  skilled care.  The new  waiver system                                                               
should include intermediate, not just skilled, care.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RORI ANN REDICK stated that  nursing homes are, and will continue                                                               
to   be,  an   important  part   of  Alzheimer's   treatment.  An                                                               
alternative is  home and community-based services,  which pay for                                                               
adult  daycare centers,  respite workers,  and medical  bills and                                                               
prescriptions.  A  disadvantage  is that  eligibility  for  these                                                               
services are based  on the same criteria as  nursing homes. Also,                                                               
care is not  provided around the clock.  Advantages include: care                                                               
provided  in the  client's familiar  home; and  cost-savings that                                                               
allow the state to provide services to more clients.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RIVER RAMUGLIA  stated that Alzheimer's  is a growing  problem in                                                               
Alaska, and patients  are not receiving needed  care. Our current                                                               
Choice waiver is  not sufficiently serving these  clients. Of the                                                               
viable  options,   an  expansion  of  home   and  community-based                                                               
services  will  address  these   problems  most  effectively.  An                                                               
amendment to  Alaska's Choice waiver program  will allow coverage                                                               
for patients who do not need intensive skilled care.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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SHANNON BRADLEY  concluded that  the Choice  waiver modifications                                                               
are  the  state's most  promising  improvements.  The steps  this                                                               
student  group   have  taken  are:     Hours  of   research  into                                                               
Alzheimer's  and  Medicaid,  letters to  the  state  Legislature,                                                               
speakers from  the Alzheimer's Resource Agency  of Alaska (ARAA),                                                               
and  interviews with  families.  According to  the ARAA,  nursing                                                               
home  treatment for  Alzheimer's  costs $83,950  per client  year                                                               
while community-based care  would only cost $34,000  per year per                                                               
client.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked for a written  report and a response  from the                                                               
Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
In  response  to  a question  from  Senator  Bunde,  COMMISSIONER                                                               
GILBERTSON reported  that his agency  would need to  work through                                                               
the  federal Health  and Human  Service  Agency in  a state  plan                                                               
amendment process  or a waiver  process. Our Pioneer  Home system                                                               
currently  serves  a large  portion  of  the state's  Alzheimer's                                                               
patients.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  then announced  that the  committees would  now hear                                                               
again  from  Commissioner   Gilbertson  and  Deputy  Commissioner                                                               
Kennai.  Another area  of reform  is post-adoption  services. The                                                               
upcoming budget will reflect a  request for additional funding so                                                               
that these supports are available for families.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  KENNAI announced that another  area that the                                                               
agency  is   looking  at  is   the  decision-making   matrix  for                                                               
responding  to   investigations.  This  tool  helps   the  agency                                                               
prioritize  reports of  harm,  and is  based  on questions  asked                                                               
about the situation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In   response  to   a  question   from   Senator  Guess,   DEPUTY                                                               
COMMISSIONER  KENNAI answered  that  the agency  responds to  all                                                               
potential reports of harm.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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For the fiscal  year 2004, the agency received  12,088 reports of                                                               
harm.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  KENNAI reported that family  assessments are                                                               
often referred  to local  agencies, in  cases of  lower priority.                                                               
Discretion is  used by trained  intake workers to  decide whether                                                               
or not the circumstance is a report of harm.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
In  response  to a  question  from  Chair Dyson,  JOANNE  GIBBENS                                                               
reported  that  law enforcement  personnel  are  notified if  the                                                               
residence  they  are responding  to  contains  a child  in  state                                                               
custody.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  pointed  out  that   some  calls  and  reports  are                                                               
intentionally  false,   perhaps  made  to  influence   a  custody                                                               
decision.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON reiterated that  discretion is needed and                                                               
used by  workers, in determinations  of state  involvement within                                                               
families.  He added  that  another area  that  the department  is                                                               
looking  at is  critical events  management. A  quality-assurance                                                               
function  of the  entire department  will allow  all agencies  to                                                               
identify, collaborate on, solve,  and learn from critical events,                                                               
especially when a  single family may be served  by multiple state                                                               
agencies.  An  information  technology tool  will  assist  agency                                                               
personnel  in sharing  and  learning  information about  critical                                                               
events.   Commissioner  Gilbertson   also  expressed   desire  to                                                               
continue with efforts to more  effectively share information with                                                               
the Legislature  and the media.  A single  information technology                                                               
system  used  by all  agencies  in  the department  will  improve                                                               
information sharing and collaboration processes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  pointed out  that the new  computer system                                                               
may need adjustment, as he has heard of some glitches.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON then  announced that the committees  would enter into                                                               
executive  session  so that  the  department  could discuss  with                                                               
members details  of specific cases  that would otherwise  be kept                                                               
confidential. The  information is  confidential because  of state                                                               
law,  but allows  for  its release  to  legislators in  executive                                                               
session. The  information is part  of pending civil  and criminal                                                               
investigations and litigation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The public  portion of  the hearing was  then adjourned  at 12:24                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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